blackrubberbags
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20 hours ago, mmason said:
The rule is written as intended.
- $10-2022 contract would be $2, because that's 20% times 1 year remaining. This $2 penalty is only for the 2022 season.
- $10-2023 contract would be $4, because that's 20% times 2 years remaining. This $4 penalty is for both the 2022 and 2023 seasons.
- $10-2024 contract would be $6, because that's 20% times 3 years remaining. This $6 penalty is for both the 2022 and 2023 seasons.
However, there's another consideration, which is when the player was signed. Players signed during the current offseason, if released the same offseason, are charged 50% of their salary in accounting.
- For example, I sign John Smith in May 2022 to a $10-2023-V contract. I release him in August, prior to Payday. I am charged $5 in Accounting. There is no salary cap penalty. Because it's a same-offseason release, it doesn't matter what his contract length is. It's always going to be a $5 accounting charge.
Without more detail, I can't weigh in on D'Ernest Johnson. When was he signed, and when was he released?
Keep in mind that while owners are responsible for posting drops, they are not responsible for posting their own penalties because, and no offense to anyone, owners are not to be trusted. Posted penalties should be verified by the Commissioner. This includes double-checking whether an early release penalty or same-offseason release charge apply. It's always possible some slip through the cracks, because ZFAC is a bear to manage and mistakes happen. However, in those cases the owner can always bring the error to everyone's attention for correction.
I obviously cannot be trusted, since I am calling $4.00 20% of $10.00 LOL...my bad, that was just a brain fart. Rethink my whole scenario with $2/$4 instead of $4/$8. I am actually relieved to know I have been interpreting/calculating the cap penalties correctly. Maybe I will just stick to my team's business and stop reading the posts of other owners.
As always, thanks Mike. My oatmeal-based brain has been flaring up the last week. It will simmer down.
Oh, and this makes D. Johnson correct, as I posted back in 2021.
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Hello Mike...
I can't believe after all these years I need this clarified, but looking around in the threads at owners who do their own early release calculations, I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THEY ARE COMING UP WITH THESE NUMBERS...
From the rulebook:
The below is from our rules:
. Players released by their ZFAC team prior to their contract expiring will incur penalties.
1. A player dropped in the last year of his contract will be charged a penalty equal to 20% of his salary for the remainder of the league year before expiring.
2. A player with 2 or more years remaining will be charged a penalty equal to 20% times the number of years remaining on the contract. This penalty will remain for the current and next league years before expiring.
The sentence I bolded and colored red...I think I have been misinterpreting (and therefore miscalculating) this for years. (Not that this is necessarily the issue I am seeing all over the place, I'm seeing all kinds of math that doesn't make sense.) BUT, I read this as the 20% penalty is multiplied for each year remaining on the contract.
Example:
Brandon Bolden 2022V @ $10.00. I drop him today, penalty is 20%, so with one year left on his contract, the penalty is $4.00 for 2022.
Brandon Bolden 2023V @ $10.00. I drop him today, penalty is 20%, so with two years left on his contract, the penalty is $8.00 ($4.00 x 2) for 2022, and $8.00 ($4.00 x 2) for 2023.
Does is not work this way? Is it just $4.00 for each year? If so, that rule is poorly worded. I have held on to crappy $10.00 players until the final year of their contract, to realize a $6.00 cap gain vs. only a $2.00 cap gain. I have also published my penalties this way for all early releases at all salary levels, so I hope the commissioners actually ignore our calculations and do it the correct way...otherwise I have paid severe "double" penalties, and, the calculations I am seeing now are waaaayyy off.
Here is an example from a release of mine in 2021:
Chargers release RB D'Ernest Johnson, 2022V @ $56. Penalty is $22.00 for 2021 and 2022.
Clearly, if I am wrong, this should have only been $11.00 each season. I paid $22.00 last season, and am on the books for $22.00 this season. This is an example of whoever processed the transaction going with whatever calculation the owner (me) did.
Although I always thought this was quite simple, and never rocket science, perhaps the league (or at least me) needs this explained to us as if we were five, or given a couple of examples.
I'd appreciate some clarification from someone who knows the definitive answer, and not just the interpretation of other owners. As I said, from seeing some of the calculations, I'm not convinced anyone knows what they are doing.
I appreciate it.
Jack
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I'm on board with this.
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On 1/6/2022 at 10:07 AM, gambrinus843 said:
I’ve always thought the easiest solution is to allow the ToO to bid on their own player. Removes the need for a bump period, removes the risk of non interested owners having a big impact.
team A opens my player, I’m now obviously invested in the outcome so I should be paying attention. Once the player is opened, I can now bid him to the contract I k ow I’m willing to match at and then the proxy will either be raised to my non match level or I’ll retain him at whatever the contract ends at below my proxy.
I can always increase or decrease my proxy as other auctions unfold, but at least I’m involved and we now don’t have picks tied up for 2-3 days waiting on bumps and responses while other auctions end that I can’t participate in while the ToO debates
BINGO. The least complex and least complicated solution.
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I'm in favor of unlimited IR activations.
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Voted a resounding YES
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Vetoed...I mean voted!
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Interested in AC3 Steelers, or any team offered. Ready for a ZFAC team!
As always, thanks Mike. My oatmeal-based brain has been flaring up the last week. It will simmer down.
Release question
in ZFAC Convention Hall Archive
Posted · Edited by blackrubberbags
As long as we are on the topic....
What is the deal with a reserve/futures contract? I've been trying to shed my cap penalty for John Simon for two seasons. He keeps getting signed and dropped from practice squads. If not for COVID, I'm quite sure he would have gone the 90 days long ago and I could have cashed out.
He was released by the Titans on 8/29/21.
I released him in AC3 32 days later on 9/30/21 on a 2022V contract, $4 hit for 2021 and 2022.
He was resigned by the Titans on 10/5/21 to their PS, and activated on 10/9/21.
He was released by the Titans on 11/6/21.
He was resigned by the Titans on 11/23/21.
He was released by the titans on 12/6/21.
He was signed by the Steelers on 12/13/21, and may have been activated for one game, I am unclear on this. Not that it matters at this point.
On 1/27/22, he was signed by the Steelers to a "RESERVES/FUTURES" contract.
On 5/16/22, he was released by the Steelers and is now a free agent.
I suppose my 90 day clock once again reset on 5/16/22? does a RESERVES/FUTURES contract count as being on an active roster? Contract-wise, for our purposes, is it essentially the same as a player being on a practice squad? I suppose in the off-season it does. I just want to clarify moving forward. Sorry to keep asking you these questions like I'm a rookie. I've been overthinking things lately. 😄